We've just been very fortunate we had good success against him and made good pitches on him, ... You have to contain him. You don't just totally shut him down.

Usually in a game like that you hope for one good shot against a guy like that and we got it. With the bases loaded and nobody out you expect to get something out of it. We couldn't have asked for anything better with our heart of the order coming up. We had the people we wanted coming to the plate.

You get up, you go to first base, you come back up and hit against the guy the next time and you do some damage with the bat. Those days are over.

I was surprised that we had that type of success against him because he's been tough. He didn't seem to have the answer today.

That year, you can put it in a capsule, ... After the trade, everything kind of fell into place. We won the league championship. You go to the World Series against the mighty Dodgers and you sweep them in four games. It was one of those years you just didn't dream about.

It was an excellent game. He stayed in the strike zone tonight and he mixed up his pitches. He kept the hitters off balance. You have scouting reports and watch video, but until you hit against a pitcher, you don't have the feel for what he does or the speed of his ball.

We don't seem to be able to handle any pitchers we don't know well. He mixed up his pitches pretty good. He moved it around. Still, we weren't very selective or very patient at the plate against him.

If Ryan Church feels like he can't play because of an injury and we feel like he should be playing, we're judging him against someone who does play with pain. And it's not fair.