If someone is not happy with one thing we either tweak it until they're happy with it. We all know where that line is, where you have to be three hands up.

It's about putting the pedal to the metal and not asking any questions at all and just going for it.

Even though we're not the most punk rock band, the way we've done things is pretty punk rock. Just kinda say it with a big middle finger to the record labels and do it ourselves.

If I wasn't a musician I could find something else... maybe an artist or a painter because I still do all that. Or possibly a writer.

We're all kind of last-chance kids. We've all been in other bands before. This is kinda the last hurrah. That dream we all had for so long.