Our guys are working like we're behind the competition right now. That's how hard they're working to try and make our cars better and better and better.

The competition has caught up. It's clear that Tony Stewart and all those teams -- which keep in mind, they were all right there, second, third, fourth, when I was winning those races -- so they are the ones kind of getting a couple of the wins and we are right behind them. So we are not that far off. We're just not dominating like we were.

At the end, I'd get behind Kurt, I'd get close to him. I tried everything. I pulled out the whole handbook and I couldn't really do a lot with him.

They are so much fun to drive and I think it's extra experience behind the wheel. It kind of gives you a warm-up for the weekend. For me, it's no pressure - it's kind of a relief to get in the Busch car and run a race. It gets you relaxed for the next day.