He's one of those guys that, when he's on, he can shut you down. And the good ones, when they get in jams, they get out of them. A lot of times, that's where games are won and lost, but the good ones rise to the occasion.

We knew when we lost those two there was going to be some games like this and it was going to take its toll on our bullpen. That's just the situation we're in.

Games like this take their toll on the bullpen,

He pitched some good games in August, too, and didn't get a decision. But that's good. That's No. 12, and it was a long time coming.

I'm sure there's been some guys who have been using it for a number of years. Like anything else, some do, some don't. I guess we have see when there's day games after night games.