We're starting to get there. They know that by no means we're not there yet. They've got a lot of lessons to learn and there's a lot of experience to be gained, but they like where we're at.

We have the talent to be. It's just the experience and consistency. And to get those, you just play.

A lot of this stuff you learn in games. That's where you learn because it's at game speed. Experience you gain in a game is farm more valuable than going out and practicing something.

In terms of experience and guys getting better, we've taken that step. We've made the strides that we set out to make this year as far as big-picture stuff.