Ben was in his room at 2. I don't know where that report came from.

He's bothered us in all areas. His speed has bothered us, he's made his open shots and we've given him too many free throws. He's always been one of the faster point guards. We've had Ben on him, and we've had trouble dealing with that speed.

I guess, yeah, you could say. It would unrealistic to expect Ben to score 30 games a game.

They do a lot of the same things. They're both from the Ben Wallace mold where you can have an effect on a game without having to contribute a lot offensively.