A lot of good was done, but it just wasn't finished. I don't know if it would have saved more lives. It would have made the response faster. You might say it would have saved lives.

FEMA can be turned around. But I don't think it can be turned around within Homeland Security.

What you're seeing is revealing weaknesses in the state, local and federal levels. All three levels have been weakened. They've been weakened by diversion into terrorism.