I think surfing and music are both places of release and self expression where there are no rules, and you can find a different form of freedom that you can’t anywhere else.

I’ve never really had a desk job, but I’ve died one day at a time all over the place.

Surfing and music were incredible outlets for me when I was a kid. And there are some really tricky times when you’re growing up and it’s easy to make a wrong decision, even with a good family and community around you. Surfing and music kept me out of trouble.

I love a good pop song. I have no problem with the concept of doing that sort of thing. For me, it’s usually what I’m inspired by, what I’m thinking about.

I’ve experienced more sunrises with my bandmates and friends out on the road than with my wife, because we’re always up at these strange times in the mornings trying to catch a plane.

I look for places where there’s no one out on the water. I’d rather surf a wave to myself than fight a crowd.

Music has always been a location for me to run to, whether it’s through someone else’s song or my own. I can observe my own planet from this foreign land and things make sense within the telescopic lens of song.

If you can have a couple of tight friends that you can tell things to, that you can say, ‘Hey, this is what I’m struggling with,’ and then pray and talk about it, then that’s an incredible thing.

I think that’s the beauty of live music – creating from the destruction.

For me songs are born out of the gray space, the things I don’t fully understand, the things that I can’t put in my pocket.